Billy Ward on New Chris Shinn Project

[Christopher]

I prefer the version of the live clip which has a much better dynamic range. Compare the drums...you can REALLY feel the
groove in the live clip version.

I agree.

The live grooves way more.

Despite Billy being locked right in at 127BPM on the live version, he's pulling back just slightly in the verses and pushing the choruses, giving it that awesome tension and release.

Very awesome.

[amoergosum]

I prefer the version of the live clip which has a much better dynamic range. Compare the drums...you can REALLY feel the
groove in the live clip version.

I agree.

The live grooves way more.

Here's a good clip which shows what I was referring to >>>

[Christopher]

Ahh..

Gotcha.

[Clint Hopkins]

For FB folks, studio version of 'Bound':

http://www.facebook.com/ChrisShinnMusic ... gxMDUxMiJ9

I prefer the version of the live clip which has a much better dynamic range. Compare the sound of the drums...you can REALLY feel the
groove in the live clip version. I guess it's the Loudness War dilemma...
My opinion >>> the studio mix/master robs quite a bit of the pure, raw emotion.

I prefer the live version as well for the same reasons. And my ear always goes to the stuff like that really cool interval the pianist plays in the chorus that's missing in the final version.

[billy ward]

For FB folks, studio version of 'Bound':

http://www.facebook.com/ChrisShinnMusic ... gxMDUxMiJ9

I prefer the version of the live clip which has a much better dynamic range. Compare the sound of the drums...you can REALLY feel the
groove in the live clip version. I guess it's the Loudness War dilemma...
My opinion >>> the studio mix/master robs quite a bit of the pure, raw emotion.

Thanks guys - and good point,amoergosum. Generally sspeaking - and if the performance is there, I think there is something to be said for mixing a song in twenty minutes. Also, I wonder if I nailed it better the third or fourth time I played it. (the studio version was two takes. We did two takes for this live thing and they were indistinguishable so I don't know which was chosen - I signed off on both takes.) AS much as I believe in hearing that moment when the "light bulb" goes off, I wonder if I simply played it better on the second- live version? Many thanks - It's pretty good biting into Bound - that is one of those pockets I can fall out of bed and play Another note - the live version is not mastered so the dynamics are def bigger on the live version. On all the live versions, the drums are louder too becausse they were in the vocal mic. I think that might be the biggest factor determining preference.

[Matus]

For FB folks, studio version of 'Bound':

http://www.facebook.com/ChrisShinnMusic ... gxMDUxMiJ9

I prefer the version of the live clip which has a much better dynamic range. Compare the sound of the drums...you can REALLY feel the
groove in the live clip version. I guess it's the Loudness War dilemma...
My opinion >>> the studio mix/master robs quite a bit of the pure, raw emotion.

Thanks guys - and good point,amoergosum. Generally sspeaking - and if the performance is there, I think there is something to be said for mixing a song in twenty minutes. Also, I wonder if I nailed it better the third or fourth time I played it. (the studio version was two takes. We did two takes for this live thing and they were indistinguishable so I don't know which was chosen - I signed off on both takes.) AS much as I believe in hearing that moment when the "light bulb" goes off, I wonder if I simply played it better on the second- live version? Many thanks - It's pretty good biting into Bound - that is one of those pockets I can fall out of bed and play Another note - the live version is not mastered so the dynamics are def bigger on the live version. On all the live versions, the drums are louder too becausse they were in the vocal mic. I think that might be the biggest factor determining preference.

Was it recorded on your own along to basic tracks or live with some other musician? That might have made the whole difference. Feeling the energy of the performance right there, in the atmosphere and in the faces of the other people, is a totally different level. And you always seem like someone who really feeds on that stuff when playing, connecting with the others, so that might be the extra magic you hear. Of course, not mastering the whole thing is an important factor, it makes it sound even more raw.
BTW,I do like drums coming through the vocal mic, just as I like snare buzz with the bass drum sound

[billy ward]

Thanks again for the reviews. Matus, we all played together on the record as well. I think overall, we simply have a greater idea of what the band is NOW compared to when we were being studio musicians making a record. I wonder if it made a difference having ALL the players knowing they were "pouring cement", In other words, everyone knew it was live and there would be NO fixes or overdubs. That may be the case as well - more concentration is always a good thing.

[Pocketplayer]

Thanks for sharing the insights Billy!

[Kurtis]

Chris Shinn Black Cicada. Looks like it's coming out sometime this month.

[littlegrooves]

Yeah, "Bound" is on repeat for sure

And I need to get me some of them fretless hi hats that Billy always seems to be using