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Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:14 pm
by matthughen
It looks to be a good'n:
John McLaughlin w/ Elvin Jones & Joey DeFrancesco
July 25, 1996
Antibes Jazz Festival
Juan-les-Pins, France

Video Source: Tv/dvdtrade/dime/you
NTSC 4:3
9586 kbs
720X480
2.11 GB
TT:1:04:02

Audio Source: SBD
AC3
256 kbs (2 chnls)
48 kHz

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Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:40 pm
by langmick
I am thinking that Elvin is more influential on modern rock drumming than Tony.

He's more out than Tony, but with more power...holy shit does he have power.

Check this out.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=386302

People who say he's all African and how he is just the voice of a thousand years of drumming and all that bullshit are COMPLETELY missing who he is...

He is the most cerebral drummer I have ever seen. He comes up with stuff no one else does...it's fucking remarkable!

Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:45 pm
by langmick
You know, my dream gig would be...not playing drums with whomever, but playing organ or piano with Elvin for a day straight...or guitar, it wouldn't matter.

I wish Jeff Beck was able to play with him...I could see that being phenomenal.

One in my top five is the Sonny Sharrock with Elvin, such insane drumming on that one, holy crop dusting Jesus that was blistering original stuff.

Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:53 pm
by langmick
Sorry, but seeing this just killed me...I love the feeling I get from watching him play...

Riley's book Beyond Bop has some Elvin transcriptions...he thought of shit NO ONE else did.


Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:33 pm
by Phil T.
Elvin is/was incredible. YouTube is blocked but I'll check into these later. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:50 pm
by DeeP_FRieD
langmick wrote:
People who say he's all African and how he is just the voice of a thousand years of drumming and all that bullshit are COMPLETELY missing who he is...

He is the most cerebral drummer I have ever seen. He comes up with stuff no one else does...it's fucking remarkable!


So are you saying that Africa and a thousand years of drumming isn't cerebral?

Anyone who has played Bata or gotten deep into Afro-Cuban/Afro-Brazillian drumming knows that the shit is as cerebral as it gets and Bata is in league on a polyrhythmic level with Carnatic drumming which no one will argue the cerebral nature of.

Anyways, all drumming as we see it in the states has roots from Africa.

Re: Elvin Jones, John McLaughlin, Joey DeFracesco DVD @ DIME

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:12 am
by langmick
Cerebral in the sense that he uses form, creativity, individuality and the things associated with intellectualism.

Afro-cuban drumming is not nearly the same as the Rite of Spring.

Those rhythms, while complex and unique and wonderful, have a repeating nature, as do the "rhythms of Africa". I wouldn't put those in the same universe as a composition by Stravinsky or Berlioz.

That's the point I'm getting at...Elvin doesn't get enough credit for his intellectual approach.