[TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby daniboun » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:32 am

Here a Live demo recorded with my Olympus LS 5, better than nothing lol

http://dl.free.fr/cmOmlZaq6
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby Josiah » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:49 pm

based on the various videos and so forth, just my opinion, but i'd put good money that those drums, which are beautiful and obviously made with love, would sound substantially better if you got rid of that epoxy-resin thing and had some nice edges cut on em.

that "ease of tuning" stuff is just bullshit sell tactics. give me any drum thats round and flat with a decent edge, and I can tune it to sound great. a skill that most any gigging drummer worth his salt has.
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby daniboun » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:47 am

Josiah wrote:based on the various videos and so forth, just my opinion, but i'd put good money that those drums, which are beautiful and obviously made with love, would sound substantially better if you got rid of that epoxy-resin thing and had some nice edges cut on em.

that "ease of tuning" stuff is just bullshit sell tactics. give me any drum thats round and flat with a decent edge, and I can tune it to sound great. a skill that most any gigging drummer worth his salt has.


Hummm not OK at all, those epoxy bearing edge provide a unique sound and this is all the interest of that patent. Ask to Tullio Granatello who is one of the best modern drum gurus and also signed my drumset by the way.
I never got such a good sound since I caught that Tamburo Opera, this is a magic set on my mind.

Ton conclude I want to say : A Tamburo Opera without Epoxy bearing edges is not a Tamburo.... :)
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby bclarkio » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:13 pm

daniboun wrote: those epoxy bearing edge provide a unique sound


That's what I was thinking.

Whether it's better or worse, more or less resonant, is a matter of taste.

The other thing, with the stave construction, where the grain of the wood is perpendicular to the playing surface, it seems it would be more difficult to cut a nice, solid bearing edge, and after you did, you would want to seal off those end grains really well.

The epoxy seems a good solution for that.

I am curious, though, as to what would happen over time, if the expansion/contraction rates of the wood and epoxy are different.
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby daniboun » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:19 am

Stave construction is known to have a signifiant power and those epoxy bearing edges just allow to focus the sound in this case.
I mean that Opera series are very versatile since those factors are combined.
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby Josiah » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:14 pm

bclarkio wrote:
daniboun wrote:The other thing, with the stave construction, where the grain of the wood is perpendicular to the playing surface, it seems it would be more difficult to cut a nice, solid bearing edge, and after you did, you would want to seal off those end grains really well.


I am curious, though, as to what would happen over time, if the expansion/contraction rates of the wood and epoxy are different.



stave shells have edges cut all the time, there are plenty of companies that make stave shell drums. cutting the edge is not an issue with the proper tools. A sealant, if you wanted to use one, which to my knowledge few do, would be only microns in thickness as it is a chemical.

its hard to say what exactly that company uses for "epoxy/resin" but it would be safe to conclude that the substance is inert and therefore has zero expansion or contraction over time, the wood of course will because it's organic.

Remo's Quadura drums were made from a resin wood combination and touted the nearly verbatim advantages as Tambura's site does...
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Re: [TEST CUSTOM SNARE] Hand assembled snare awesome !

Postby daniboun » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:25 pm

Josiah wrote:
bclarkio wrote:
daniboun wrote:The other thing, with the stave construction, where the grain of the wood is perpendicular to the playing surface, it seems it would be more difficult to cut a nice, solid bearing edge, and after you did, you would want to seal off those end grains really well.


I am curious, though, as to what would happen over time, if the expansion/contraction rates of the wood and epoxy are different.



stave shells have edges cut all the time, there are plenty of companies that make stave shell drums. cutting the edge is not an issue with the proper tools. A sealant, if you wanted to use one, which to my knowledge few do, would be only microns in thickness as it is a chemical.

its hard to say what exactly that company uses for "epoxy/resin" but it would be safe to conclude that the substance is inert and therefore has zero expansion or contraction over time, the wood of course will because it's organic.

Remo's Quadura drums were made from a resin wood combination and touted the nearly verbatim advantages as Tambura's site does...


Tamburo says itself that the epoxy bearing edge helps on getting the best and maximum contact with the head.

Just read this :

"OPERA CLASSIC is ideal for the most demanding professional drummer. It clearly demonstrates the passion that drives the Tamburo team of craftsmen in their work. Its unique plywoodstave shell makes OPERA a versatile and reliable instrument that can be used in a variety of applications: from studio recording to live events on stage and in clubs. Its new feature is the stave reinforcement ring made of 2-ply evaporated beech wood which makes the shell more rigid, while the cast epoxy bearing edge allows for perfect seating of the head. All metal components are new: lugs, claw hooks and tom arms. It is dedicated to all those drummers who provided suggestions and contributed to this result: high quality and strong identity."

http://www.tamburodrums.com/en/opera-classic

About Remo : Resin Wood also called acousticon are supposed to produce more lower frequencies than maple, more higher frequencies than birch, and be less suseptibe to warping than wood shells and it lastttttttttttttttttt :D

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