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Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:32 am
by electrizer
Josiah wrote:My suggestion would be to get a practice space somewhere, they really aren't that expensive and opens all the world to you for shedding.
And that's a very good idea but a shed, which I haven't managed to find yet, would be away from the place I live, which is fair enough, but there's a huge advantage to practicing when you feel like or just fooling around when you feel like (which has its benefits) instead of when I have to because I had arranged my schedule that way.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys! I think I'll go for a modified version of the tennis ball platform, adding a sheet of mineral wool on the top of the bottom sheet of wood to further help disperse the vibrations transferred by the tennis balls.

Cheers!

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:38 pm
by Josiah
electrizer wrote: And that's a very good idea but a shed, which I haven't managed to find yet, would be away from the place I live, which is fair enough, but there's a huge advantage to practicing when you feel like or just fooling around when you feel like (which has its benefits) instead of when I have to because I had arranged my schedule that way.

I would disagree. Practicing at home has is a disadvantage.

There is a lot to be said for isolating your art from your personal life. You can fuck around on the pad, ekit, whatever at home whenever. And it will always be just that - fucking around.

None of that is any substitute for focused practice. Isolation, a short drive, a monthly rent bill, a secret place to do your thing, a reason to focus on your craft. You're not going to jerk off in the practice space you pay for. You're going to show up and kick your own ass. Because that's what you are paying for. It's the same concept as school. Structure, purpose and direction are required for serious practice.

If you are serious about your craft, having an isolated practice space is superior in so many ways to being at home.

If it's a money thing, that's a whole different ball game. Work with what you got.

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:41 pm
by deseipel
Josiah wrote:Do you work for them?


Man, there's no way to neutralize vibration without significant physical properties. If there was, all the studio's in the world wouldn't be built the way they are. Physics is what it is. No "green glue" is going to magically change the laws of physics.


If you got the money, lead sheeting is the going to kill the most. That tennis ball idea looks good too. Air and space are one direction. Pure physical density is another.

There's no magic to any of this. Either separate the vibrations via space or kill them via density.


My suggestion would be to get a practice space somewhere, they really aren't that expensive and opens all the world to you for shedding.


Or maybe throw a sheet of ply wood on top of an old mattress. Maybe that'll do it...


No I don't work for them, does it sound like I do? I've personally used it and yes, it works to damp sound and vibration. But I agree that mass and air are how you combat sound transmission. But this is purely a vibration issue. My idea was based on my personal observations of green glue applied to drywall, it heavily de-resonates a surface by damping/absorbing vibrations. So logic follows that if you built a riser and used green glue the resonation of the riser would be significantly decreased. This, with some anti-vibration 'feet' is what I'm recommending. This is the only way you're going to 'decouple' a riser from the floor, aside from hanging it from the ceiling. Let's not turn this into a 'how to build a studio' thread, that's not what he's after.

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:03 pm
by Josiah
deseipel wrote:This is the only way you're going to 'decouple' a riser from the floor, aside from hanging it from the ceiling....
Oh come on, seriously? Did you not check out the link the tennis ball riser?!

I can think of numerous other way to isolate a riser from a floor, other then hanging it from the ceiling....


The tennis ball idea is pretty genius though, kudo's to that fellow.

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:04 pm
by electrizer
Josiah wrote:
electrizer wrote: And that's a very good idea but a shed, which I haven't managed to find yet, would be away from the place I live, which is fair enough, but there's a huge advantage to practicing when you feel like or just fooling around when you feel like (which has its benefits) instead of when I have to because I had arranged my schedule that way.

I would disagree. Practicing at home has is a disadvantage.

There is a lot to be said for isolating your art from your personal life. You can fuck around on the pad, ekit, whatever at home whenever. And it will always be just that - fucking around.

None of that is any substitute for focused practice. Isolation, a short drive, a monthly rent bill, a secret place to do your thing, a reason to focus on your craft. You're not going to jerk off in the practice space you pay for. You're going to show up and kick your own ass. Because that's what you are paying for. It's the same concept as school. Structure, purpose and direction are required for serious practice.

If you are serious about your craft, having an isolated practice space is superior in so many ways to being at home.

If it's a money thing, that's a whole different ball game. Work with what you got.
true...

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:15 pm
by deseipel
Josiah wrote:
deseipel wrote:This is the only way you're going to 'decouple' a riser from the floor, aside from hanging it from the ceiling....
Oh come on, seriously? Did you not check out the link the tennis ball riser?!

I can think of numerous other way to isolate a riser from a floor, other then hanging it from the ceiling....


The tennis ball idea is pretty genius though, kudo's to that fellow.

Agreed, I didn't mean to say my way was the only way, but something like this is the idea, including the tennis ball...

Re: Anti-vibration drum riser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:06 pm
by Julián Fernández
Nails work... Oh, yes, you´ll need the hammer. That´s a given.
But GG improves STL ratings when used between layers of mass (gypsum wood or whatever)...