Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Morgenthaler » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:10 am

I hear it like a 5-stroke roll played over the bar line:

rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL etc with the underlines being the 4/4 pulse and the bold being the accents.
Notice how the pulse always falls in line with a right hand stroke. This is before adding the snare, mind you.
But once you got the pattern down, it's not too hard to add the snare.
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby deseipel » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:21 am

nice job on the transcription.
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Manu » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:29 am

Morgenthaler wrote:I hear it like a 5-stroke roll played over the bar line:

rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL etc with the underlines being the pulse and the bold being the accents.
Notice how the pulse always falls in line with a right hand stroke. This is before adding the snare, mind you.
But once you got the pattern down, it's not too hard to add the snare.



Damn accenting every 3rd 16th note while doing the 5s doesn't appear to be that easy :(

I will work on this for sure, thanks a lot for the input guys.
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby deseipel » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:53 pm

forget the 32nds/doubles for now

learn 16th notes with accents, which is a 4:3 thing, then try to play that with RH hiting backbeats.

Then whatever notes you aren't accenting... including the snare drum.... double.


something like this

http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/3 ... a08448c9fe
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Clint Hopkins » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:59 pm

deseipel wrote:forget the 32nds/doubles for now

learn 16th notes with accents, which is a 4:3 thing, then try to play that with RH hiting backbeats.

Then whatever notes you aren't accenting... including the snare drum.... double.


Exactly. It may also help at first to practice it as a bar of 6/4.
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Lucas Ives » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:10 pm

Manu wrote:
Morgenthaler wrote:I hear it like a 5-stroke roll played over the bar line:

rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL rrllR llrrL etc with the underlines being the pulse and the bold being the accents.
Notice how the pulse always falls in line with a right hand stroke. This is before adding the snare, mind you.
But once you got the pattern down, it's not too hard to add the snare.



Damn accenting every 3rd 16th note while doing the 5s doesn't appear to be that easy :(

I will work on this for sure, thanks a lot for the input guys.



Like others have said, first you need to hear/feel the groups of 3 within the flow of the sixteenths. But the 5s are just a double stroke roll with every 3rd double as a single instead. Hands still move up and down the same, if that makes sense.

rrllR_llrrL_rrllR_llrrL.... (accenting every 3rd 16th note, which is what you want here)

is very different from:

rrllRllrrLrrllRllrr.... (accenting every 5th 32nd note)
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Matus » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 pm

I'll try to get my hands on the pad and record a quick vid tomorrow to show you my version of that.
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Manu » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:10 pm

Matus wrote:I'll try to get my hands on the pad and record a quick vid tomorrow to show you my version of that.


If you did a video explanation i'd be very grateful ;=)
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Postby Matus » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:16 am

Today I'll be seeing Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, so it has to wait until monday ;)
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Re: Folks I need help with the sticking for this!!!!

Postby Manu » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:36 am

Matus wrote:Today I'll be seeing Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, so it has to wait until monday ;)


Yeah no problem.

BTw are DT here in Spain? I gotta check their site :D

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