Ndugu Ride

[DSOP]

btw, guys raving about those rides should post some clips!

[langmick]

All 2002s.

[Morgenthaler]

btw, guys raving about those rides should post some clips!

http://grooveshark.com/s/Mushanga/3zsnc4?src=5

And I totally agree with you; what does it matter how they make them, as long
as they sound sweet.

[Josiah]

And I totally agree with you; what does it matter how they make them, as long
as they sound sweet.

That's why most my cymbals are blank, the logos have been taken off. It is often very surprising peoples reactions when they ask what is what.

[langmick]

[matthughen]

[matthughen]

My photoshop shark has been jumped.

[Clint Hopkins]

Wackerman's Paistes sound good in this clip:

[Niles]

That's why I wrote no offense, just my opinion. Not that I think 'drummer's that play Paiste have no taste', that would rule out my favs. Bonham especially. They break real easy and Paiste's creative process is not creative. They don't make their own complex. They are cookie cutter cymbals. It's just how I feel based on the sound and the info I know about their cymbal making process. To each their own.

Not creative? Break easy? Cookie cutter cymbals? Now that is funny.

Umm yea, Abe Jr breaks them constantly. The reasons I say their cymbal making process is not creative is because it's not creative. It's done by machines. Their manufacturing process is unique and quite different. They press their cymbals from industrial alloy sheets that is supplied to Paiste in huge rolls, to their specifications. The same way car panels are stamped out. This process means that they get uniformity right across their range. Even the hammering is mechanical and even. They don't make their own alloy complex like Zildjian or Sabian. They do not make cymbals in the Turkish or Asian Minor Tradition. Personally, I don't like this. There is no creativity there. All of their 20" Signature rides sound exactly alike because of this. I like each cymbal having individuality and depth. I like the process of a company making their own metal rather than buying it in large sheets and cutting cymbals from it. Paiste cymbals ARE cookie cutter cymbals, whether you agree or not, that's how they make them. If you find humor in this, maybe take it up with the swiss embassy lol.

It's true that Paiste doesn't have their own foundry, but Paiste has definitely developed their own manufacturing techniques. They actually hand hammer their cymbals, and even the machine hammering is controlled by hand. The cymbals aren't just placed in an automated machine, they're truly hand crafted - it's labor intensive, and this probably governs their pricing. Anyway, I also find them a very innovative company, which has influenced the industry a lot...

From my understanding, when Abe Jr. switched sticks to his sig model, he wasn't having the breakage problem. Also, I heard that Joe Morello's ride on Take 5 was an A., but I could be wrong.

DSOP, is that you in that video? Sounds great. I also really like the Trad crashes... Oh yeah, matt, thanks for the photos...